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Topic: Disney and retrofuturisme and 'punk elements

I know a lot of you are probably going to roll your eyes at me, but please bare with me.

I know Disney is probably one of the last things you'd expect it from, but I think they've done some seriously cool things that are retrofuturism, futurepunk, cyberpunk and even steampunk (they've build an entire steampunk island in Tokyo Disney Sea called Mysterious Island).

I've only been to Disneyland Resort Paris, so I can only show pics from that I'm afraid.

These are from Discoveryland:

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Statue at the entrance of Discoveryland.

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Orbitron: Flying Machines

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Sign with the menu for Café Hyperion

And now: the Hyperion, which they so need to make a miniature off so I can buy it and hang it in my house haha.

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Café Hyperion/Vidéopolis

It's not just a café, they've got this huge dining room inside a stage on the right side where they put up a show a couple of times a day.  There's also two big screens next to the stage (one on each side) so people can follow the stage from the dining room.  When the show isn't on they play classic Disney cartoons on there.  (and that is the end of my random info).

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Space Mountain: Mission 2

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Notice the cool lampstand smile

I have no photos of the 50ties style cars, nor of the Nautilus, but I shall remedy that next week on Thursday and I'll be sure to share the pics with you.  Even if you're not a Disney fan, you'll love the Nautilus, it looks like it's walked away straight out of Verne's novel.

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Disney is definitely a great source for retro-futuristic goodness.  It's been a while since I went to Euro-Disney--a little over ten years ago in fact.  They had just finished Space Mountain back then, but we were too young to get in.  Of course, I believed the rocket would actually be shot into space, so you might understand my reluctance at the time to enter the thing....

I don't think the Hyperion was there at the time, but that looks absolutely stunning!  I had no idea they maintained that airship there!  Perhaps I ought to revisit Euro-Disney some time soon.

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I found a lovely poster of the thing:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/palaeogothica/Disney%20Posters/videopolisad2.jpg

Now that looks like it could have been a perfect Jules Verne book cover!

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The airship looks very steampunk, and also very French. I'd be hard pushed to say how, but I think French technology of that time has quite a distinct look.

Actually I think there is something inherently dieselpunk in Disney full stop. This is probably because Disneyworld/land seemed to become really famous in the 50s, and had that wholesome, all-American look that is fundamental to the nice shiny side of dieselpunk. (I suppose the other side is fascism and radiation). I was writing about an abandoned theme park recently, and it couldn’t help acquiring a 50’s look in my mind, even though it wasn’t Disney.

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Ottens wrote:

Disney is definitely a great source for retro-futuristic goodness.  It's been a while since I went to Euro-Disney--a little over ten years ago in fact.  They had just finished Space Mountain back then, but we were too young to get in.  Of course, I believed the rocket would actually be shot into space, so you might understand my reluctance at the time to enter the thing....

I don't think the Hyperion was there at the time, but that looks absolutely stunning!  I had no idea they maintained that airship there!  Perhaps I ought to revisit Euro-Disney some time soon.

The Hyperion has been there since opening day smile
It's definitely my favorite thing in the entire park.

I'm definitely going to take more pics of it next Thursday!

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Ottens wrote:

I found a lovely poster of the thing:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/ … lisad2.jpg

Now that looks like it could have been a perfect Jules Verne book cover!

That poster is STUNNING Ottens!
Thank you so much for sharing it!

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Space Captain Toby wrote:

Actually I think there is something inherently dieselpunk in Disney full stop. This is probably because Disneyworld/land seemed to become really famous in the 50s, and had that wholesome, all-American look that is fundamental to the nice shiny side of dieselpunk. (I suppose the other side is fascism and radiation). I was writing about an abandoned theme park recently, and it couldn’t help acquiring a 50’s look in my mind, even though it wasn’t Disney.

I agree with you there.  They also seem to refuse (and I think that's a positive thing) to let go of it.  I can't speak for the other parks as I've not been there, but in the French parks they are really sticking to that entire turn of the century and steam/dieselpunk feel in many parts.

Think about Main Street USA which is entirely build like a high street from the Belle Epoque.  Their Disneyland Hotel is in the Victorian style.  And they have loads of oldtimers and sometimes even a horsedrawn streetcar on main street.  Not to mention the _real_ steam driven train that goes around the park and the steam boat in Frontierland. 

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I love that Mississippi river boat!  I believe they have a special name for those ships, but I can't seem to remember it...

HildeKitten wrote:

The Hyperion has been there since opening day smile
It's definitely my favorite thing in the entire park.

I'm definitely going to take more pics of it next Thursday!

Why then it is a shame I didn't spot it when I was around.  But please do provide us with more photographs!

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I will!

He's the side view of the boat:

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I'll ask my dad later if he knows the term for those ships, he might do smile

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Paddle-Steamer?

I've been on that boat too when I was in Eurodisney, the old west bit was quite good, particularly the wild West show.